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June 24th, 2009, 12:01 am by Jon Lansner
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Federal home-price trackers have finally rebuilt a tool to their workbench — an new index that raises as many questions as it answers.
The Federal Housing Finance Authority — the regulator of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and Federal Home Loan Banks previously known as “OFHEO” — has updated its home-price index to include tracking local prices by both its traditional-yet-unorthodox mix of sales data and appraisal valuations from refinancings and its newly minted “purchase only” methodology.
These indexes draw their data from the mortgages bought, sold or held by Fannie and Freddie — and, thus, show what’s going in in more “affordable” communities where the smaller loans that these agencies buy are widely used. Some critics have argued that the long-running inclusion of appraisals in the math — that is, the human guesstimate from the appraiser vs. the economic pureness of a price in sales transaction — was skewing the results.
Well, those critics may have been proven correct. But what the skew means, is up for discussion.
In Orange County, from 1992 to 2009’s 1st quarter, the traditional index (appraisals/purchases) shows local home values increasing at an annual average rate of 5.2%. That’s slightly higher than the 5% average annual gain found by the “purchase only” math. One could say that makes some sense as homes that are being refinanced tend to be better performing and owned by better financed owners who may be better at upkeep, too.
But take a look at how the various ebbs and flows — especially in the accompanying chart! …
- From 1992 to 1996, the end of the last great real estate debacle, the addition of the human eye — in the form of the purchase/appraisal index — resulted in lower average losses: 3.7% vs. 4.1% for the purchase only index.
- As the recovery bubbled up, from 1997 to 2002, the human eye found lower gains. The purchase/appraisal index found average price hikes of 8.7% vs. 10.1% from the purchase-only index.
- As the boom glowed red hot, the human eye saw more gold. The appraisal/purchase index rose 18% a year on average vs. 16.9% for the purchase only marker.
- Since 2006 — the grand collapse — the human eye has seen slightly less devastation. The appraisal/purchase index found annualized average losses of 10.9% vs. 11.9% for the purchase only index.
Pondering these patterns, I’m guessing …
- Appraisers are a bit slow to catch on to trends. That’s probably what you want them to do.
- Appraisers were late to see the boom starting in the late 1990s. Healthy skepticism.
- Then, as the boom approached the peak, appraisers were slow to see warning signs — likely under some pressures from borrowers and lenders, both blinded by previous profits, who doubted the third-party skepticism.
- And, finally, the appraisers haven’t yet kept up with the price declines as foreclosure-fed discounting makes valuations tricky.
I’m not blaming appraisers here. Being wary of trends — good or bad — is often a desirable trait.
Appraiser culpability in housing mess?
Other pricing news …
Posted in: Home prices • Policy, politics & regulation • Polls • Top tale • appraisers • FHFA • industry | 35 Comments »
June 22nd, 2009, 6:05 pm by Jeff Collins
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The Portabello Estate along Corona del Mar’s “billionaire’s row” may have sold for $75 million as a Newport Beach agent claimed in late April.
But two months after news of that landmark deal surfaced, no deed transferring ownership has been recorded with the county Clerk-Recorder’s Office.
The Portabello mystery stems from an abrupt appearance of a post in the local Multiple Listing Service stating that Portabello had just closed escrow, listing the sale price as $75 million — $40 million more than the current record O.C. price paid for actor Nicolas Cage’s home on Newport Bay.
The agent who made the entry, Sengdao Vongruksukdi, confirmed that the sale had closed escrow, calling it “a done deal.” But Steve Kiser, an attorney claiming to represent the home’s owner, contacted the Register and denied that any such sale had been finalized.
Both Vongruksukdi and Kiser now steadfastly refuse to comment on whatever happened to that deal.
When the Corona del Mar manor first went up for sale three years ago, it’s $75 million asking price was the second-highest in the nation.
The sprawling, two-level home has its own theater, bowling alley, soda shop and jewelry store. It also features an outdoor grotto, two pools and an upper-deck whirlpool tub with a see-through plastic bubble on the bottom.
Vongruksukdi reported in the Multiple Listing Service on April 29 that the home had closed escrow. The next day, she changed the listing’s status from “closed sale” to “canceled” listing, still insisting in an interview that a deal had gone through.
While recording a deed with the county is not required by law, by practice such deeds are almost always recorded these days to protect one’s claim to ownership of such a valuable asset. The absence of a recorded transfer of ownership in this case could be an indication that the “done deal” of April wasn’t done after all.
Previous Portabello stories/posts …
Other luxury home news …
Posted in: Luxury homes • Polls • Top tale • houses • Portabello Estate | 18 Comments »
June 16th, 2009, 1:02 pm by Jon Lansner
It’s part of the economic cycle. At times like these — near a bottom, or just a pause of a sharp decline — you see conflicting data with different meanings depending on one’s outlook or perspective.
Just ponder the questions below … and try to noodle whether certain local news is good, or bad .. or somewhere in between!
Orange County homebuilders work at slowest pace in half century …
- Bad news: If you make money off construction.
- Good news: Less supply of homes added to ailing market.
You see slow homebuilding as ...
Mortgage rates bump up off historic lows …
- Bad news: It costs folks more to buy or refinance.
- Good news: Rise is due, in part, to improving job picture — key to shopper psyche.
You see rising mortgage rates as ...
Supply of Orange County homes for sale at lows last seen 3 years ago or more …
- Bad news: Frustrating shoppers looking for lower-priced bargains.
- Good news: No flood of desperate sellers; prices in certain segments firming.
You see thin supply of homes to buy as
Orange County rents falling fast …
- Bad news: Landlords getting less cash; shoppers have less motivation to buy!
- Good news: Less expense for renters!
You see falling rents as ...
Pricing of Orange County homes runs 30% or more below peak …
- Bad news: Losses for owners, forcing some to foreclosure. Scores soem shoppers.
- Good news:Bargain City! Affordability for shoppers at levesl not seen in 5-plus years.
You see falling prices as ...
Posted in: Overall economics • Polls • Top tale • numbers | 6 Comments »
June 15th, 2009, 10:56 am by Jon Lansner
The Register’s Eugene Garcia has put together a Great Depression restrospective — a great package of historical — and current — economic research plus photographs (a sampling is above!) Here’s a snippet of the reporting:
UCI economist Gary Richardson, whose studies focus on the Great Depression, believes the condition of the banking system in today’s recession is even more extreme. “The contraction now is far worse,” he said. Does he still think this recession could devolve into another depression?
“Maybe.” But he sees a decade-long Japan-style recession as a more likely possibility.
Chapman University economist Esmael Adibi believes the worst is probably behind us. “Most of the big layoffs have already occurred, mainly because CEOs really panicked,” said Adibi. “If they could have laid off 20, they said ‘let’s do 40.’”
But Adibi says the job losses now can’t compare to the 20-percent-plus unemployment rate of the Depression. “It pales in comparison,” he said.
Adibi credits modern institutions and programs like FDIC deposit insurance with averting a repeat of the 1930s. “This is probably the worst recession in Orange County’s history since the end of World War II,” he said. “However this is no Great Depression.”
Please check out the entire package — and it’s a big block of work … BY CLICKING HERE!
How bad do you think it’ll get!
Is this the next Great Depression?
Other real estate news …
Posted in: Overall economics • Polls • Great Depression | 24 Comments »
June 12th, 2009, 3:30 pm by Jon Lansner
Tough week in the luxury hotel business around here ends on a bit of an upbeat note: The opening of the 360-room Terranea Resort on the old Marineland of the Pacific property in Rancho Palos Verdes!
That follows with days news of:
At Terranea, a press relaese says: “Terranea is secluded and private, providing an oceanfront escape that feels far removed from hectic city life, yet is close for millions. Guests and owners will feel like they’ve been transported to a tranquil place that embodies the classic California lifestyle. The Terranea staff offers gracious, humble service - providing the kind of attentive service one associates with retreating to a safe, familiar, nurturing environment.”
Yet the LA Times notes that it took an $8-million loan from the city to get Terranea open.
Do we have too many luxury resorts?
Posted in: Luxury homes • Polls | 9 Comments »
June 11th, 2009, 4:00 am by Jeff Collins
Kristine Thalman, CEO of the Orange County Building Industry Association, says that an 85% jump in new home sales since February shows that a homebuyer tax credit is reviving the new-home market, even though sales are lower than they were a year ago.
Responding to a request for comment on an earlier post, Thalman said it’s wrong to compare sales to last year. The earlier post reported that new-home purchase contracts fell 35% from last year during the first two months since a $10,000 tax credit became available.
Thalman said it’s more relevant to compare sales to the moribund months during the economic meltdown, when “everything came to a complete halt.” She added:
“You can go back four months … or even six months. There was virtually no activity whatsoever. We’ve seen an increase in sales, and these are actually contracted sales, where you have a better quality of buyers who are serious about buying homes and not investors.
“And we saw increases of as much as 87% with the tax credit going into effect March 1. I just think that comparing back to April of ‘08 doesn’t relate to the tax credit. You’ve got to look at the economy month-by-month these days.”
Thalman added that builders like William Lyon Homes saw some phases of its developments sell out ahead of schedule, adding that the tax credit put some idled employees back to work.
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Posted in: Brokers, builders, etc. • Polls • Top tale • numbers • tax credit | 34 Comments »
June 10th, 2009, 2:06 pm by KELLI HART, THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER
Real Estate Guru Phil Immel, who deals mainly with luxury real estate in Dana Point, weighs in on the St. Regis luxury resort being reportedly near foreclosure as St. Regis owners and lenders face big losses!
His two cents on what the owner should do, how the banks will deal and who might be stuck with the bill:
- “Like many hotels, they are overleveraged relative to reduced revenue due to the distressed economic climate.
- Similar to many real estate assets, residential or commercial, prices may be off 50% from the peak a few years ago.
- If you add up all of the debt on the St. Regis, they likely owe far more than it is worth in today’s market.
- Now what? Either the multiple lenders agree to a “short pay” off or take the property back in foreclosure and resell it to someone in the future at a reduced price and recover some percentage of what is owed.

- Also, the existing owner could declare bankruptcy, thus delaying things for months or years. I would do a pre-packaged Chapter 11 like Chrysler or General Motors. If the banks did not accept, I would file for bankruptcy (assuming there are not unusual business matters that I may not be aware of).
- If Citigroup forecloses on what might be a third lender position, then it will have to make the payments on the underlying first and second Trust Deeds, which would likely make no sense due to the size of debt.
- If you ran Citigroup, you would likely walk on the deal and realize you would only be throwing good money after bad.
- Who would foot the bill? U.S Taxpayers most likely…I say let it go. Move along. Bank lost, next!
- What if the St. Regis is only worth $200 million? A savvy owner would bankrupt the existing corporation and form a new partnership/corporation and buy it back at today’s value and shed lots of debt and run profitably into the future.”
Related stories…
St. Regis resort reportedly near foreclosure
O.C. investor giving San Diego hotel to the bank
What's the future for a St. Regis, bankruptcy or not?
Posted in: Commercial property • Distressed properties • Meltdown • Polls • Top tale • Dana Point • industry • St. Regis | 12 Comments »
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