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Steepest property tax-value dips hit Santa Ana

July 9th, 2009, 12:04 am · 34 Comments · posted by Jeff Collins

City Tax value Chg.
Santa Ana $20.5 billion -6.3%
Stanton $2.1 billion -5.8%
Tustin $9.5 billion -4.4%
RS Margarita $6.6 billion -4.1%
La Habra $4.7 billion -3.5%
Aliso Viejo $7.6 billion -3.0%
Laguna Niguel $11.9 billion -2.8%
Garden Grove $12.3 billion -2.7%
Lake Forest $10.9 billion -2.4%
Yorba Linda $10.9 billion -2.4%
Buena Park $7.4 billion -2.3%
Orange $16.6 billion -2.2%
Placentia $5 billion -2.0%
San J Capo $5.8 billion -2.0%
Mission Viejo $13.1 billion -1.9%
Laguna Hills $5.6 billion -1.8%
San Clemente $12.6 billion -1.8%
Dana Point $8.8 billion -1.4%
Cypress $5.5 billion -1.2%
Anaheim $34.6 billion -1.1%
Westminster $6.7 billion -1.1%
Laguna Woods $2.3 billion -0.9%
Brea $7 billion -0.8%
Fullerton $14.6 billion -0.8%
Seal Beach $4.2 billion -0.4%
Irvine $47.2 billion 0.2%
Villa Park $1.4 billion 0.3%
Costa Mesa $14.4 billion 0.4%
Los Alamitos $1.6 billion 0.6%
Huntington B $28.2 billion 0.7%
La Palma $1.7 billion 1.3%
Fountain Valley $6.8 billion 1.5%
Newport B’ch $38.7 billion 2.0%
Laguna Beach $10.1 billion 4.0%
Unincorporated $22 billion -3.3%
Total $418.8 billion -1.2%

Orange County’s first drop in taxable property values in 14 years was by no means an across-the-board drop.

The Assessor’s recap of the new taxable values for homes and other properties — remember, that’s different that actual values — show that 25 of Orange County’s 34 cities saw their taxable values driven down by falling home prices, with an average decline of 2.4%. And 9 had increases, with an average gain of 1.2%.

Highlights include:

  • Santa Ana has the biggest decrease in taxable property values: down 6.3%.
  • Stanton has the second-highest decrease: down 5.8%.
  • Value reductions for all properties in the county totaled more than $29 billion — $27.6 billion of that for homes.
  • Laguna Beach has the biggest increase in taxable values: up 4%.
  • Newport Beach has the second-bigest: up 2%. Fountain Valley occupied the No. 3 spot with a gain of 1.5%
  • Irvine has the county’s largest property tax base: Homes and businesses there had a collective taxable value of $47.2 billion. That was up 0.2% from the 2008-09 tax year.
  • Newport Beach is second, with a total taxable value of $38.7 billion. (The five cities with the largest taxable values are highlighted in red in the chart.)
  • Santa Ana, the county’s most populous city, has the fifth highest tax base: $20.5 billion.
  • Villa Park, the county’s smallest city, has the smallest tax base: $1.4 billion.
  • Los Alamitos and La Palma follow closely with the second- and third-smallest tax bases: $1.6 billion and $1.7 billion respectively.
  • Unincorporated areas saw taxable values fall 3.3% to $22 billion.

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 34 Comments

  • Jc says:
    July 9, 2009 at 7 am

    Not really…the county increased my by 2% when actually the price drop to the levels of 2003, and already paid back then 2% increased.

    In other words…I feel that the county cruxifying the currents to save the deliquents in town.

    • jennychangf8 says:
      July 9, 2009 at 11 am

      haha..no surprise here. Look at what Obama is doing; keeping people in homes that they couldn’t afford in the first place!

      This is the new Amerca model; save the irresponsible and punish those who live within their means!

  • Calm Down says:
    July 9, 2009 at 7 am

    Come on Lee, break out your world famous list. We won’t laugh, promise.

  • jpmuley says:
    July 9, 2009 at 7 am

    Could it be all those from across the border have driven down the value of the homes !!! na na cant be that…or could it..wake up because of them.this has been going on..

    • fcprop says:
      July 9, 2009 at 11 am

      I work with foreclosures and I all can say is look at the sur-name’s of all the foreclosures!! They sure aren’t German/Irish/Brittish and so forth.

  • space cowboy says:
    July 9, 2009 at 7 am

    MY TAXES WENT UP AND PROPERTY VALUE WENT DOWN I AM DAMN NEAR PAYING MORE TAXES THAN THE PROPERTY IS WORTH. GIVE THE WORKING MAN A BREAK.

  • ed oneil says:
    July 9, 2009 at 7 am

    my charge extra 2 % also. you are right jc.

  • SteveR says:
    July 9, 2009 at 8 am

    Just as predicted a year ago. Just wait until the end of the year when those actual tax dollars start trickling back down the pike.

    Note to all City Controllers: Now is a good time to start stocking up on coffee, cigs, and Jack Daniels, your going to need it come the end of the year.

  • Debra says:
    July 9, 2009 at 8 am

    Yorba Linda increased by 2%, at least my home did.

  • BOGEY says:
    July 9, 2009 at 8 am

    Keep buying those homes sheeple, the Calif Govt needs you and your money badly. They will even give you an extra 10K in tax cuts just to buy a home lolllll

  • Liar Loan says:
    July 9, 2009 at 9 am

    Home Prices Post First Quarterly Gain Since 2006

    http://www.housingwire.com/2009/07/09/home-prices-post-first-quarterly-gain-since-2006/

    Just curious, did this happen during the Japanese deflationary spiral?

    • no worries says:
      July 9, 2009 at 9 am

      A 1.7% rise in median?

      No, I don’t think that happened in Japan.

      Did Japan’s government force record low mortgage rates, add fantastic tax credits, halt a massive foreclosure process to limit supply, and flood the people with 3 1/2% low down loans; all during the peak selling quarter? 3 years and some 30% drop from the peak? I’m sure if they had, they could have mustered enough suckers to see a blip in the median.

    • BOGEY says:
      July 9, 2009 at 9 am

      C’mon LL, absolutely NOTHING charted goes up or down in a straight line. Could shockg be posting using your id by chance? Is that you shockg? lolll

      Of course it happened in Japan, but YoY prices declined for 15 straight years.

      http://www.businessinsider.com/shiller-japans-housing-market-fell-for-15-years-2009-6

    • buy the dip later says:
      July 9, 2009 at 9 am

      Just curious, did the Japanese banks have shadow inventory to manipulate home prices?

      Don’t worry son, we have years to go in downward prices. Let’s see what happens to prices in the fall and winter, shall we?

      • Liar Loan says:
        July 9, 2009 at 10 am

        I don’t know… did they? For all the self-styled deflation experts in here, nobody seems to know much about what happened in Japan.

  • Liar Loan says:
    July 9, 2009 at 9 am

    More deflationary news…

    Foreclosures Drop 11% in Q2
    Foreclosed homes in California declined by 26% from last year.
    http://www.housingwire.com/2009/07/08/foreclosures-drop-11-in-q2/

    I know Bogey says this is due to 10k tax breaks, but rants said the government can’t stop this thing from happening. So who do I believe?

  • Johnny Mack says:
    July 9, 2009 at 9 am

    I just want to know how my home value can drop 35%, while my property taxes are 7% higher this year? That’s on top of the 6% hike from last year! Thanks Mr. Chriss W. Streeet, Tax Collector…keep making those stock market bets - and losing!!

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/county-committee-street-2457262-investment-oversight

    By the way, what’s with the two “s” in your first name?

  • Liar Loan says:
    July 9, 2009 at 9 am

    You know I’m thinking about going back to school. After all, I could probably borrower $100,000 to fund some further eduction, and walk away without making any payments afterwards. What are they going to do, foreclose on my education? @@@LOLRIBSPLITTER@@@

  • rants says:
    July 9, 2009 at 11 am

    hey LL- put this in your foreclosure pipe and smoke it
    anyone who thinks this is the bottom of the market
    is a complete fool–

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/31831512

  • rants says:
    July 9, 2009 at 12 pm

    XTRA XTRA read all about it

    http://mortgage.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/09/foreclosure-backlog-grows-in-oc/13319/#comment-31667

    just a matter of time till these babies hit the market–
    that will begin the next leg down in the deflationary death
    spiral of home prices— and despite what the realtors
    on this blog say— there aint a damn thing the
    government can do about it—

    LL isnt quite intelligent enough to see the connection between the commercial market implosion and the overall economic picture–
    this would explain why he bought at the very apex of the
    worlds greatest bubble– great move there einstein

  • Liar Loan says:
    July 9, 2009 at 1 pm

    rants isnt quite intelligent enough to see the connection between the reduction in foreclosures, the increase in home sales, the increase in home prices, and the overall economic picture–
    this would explain why he sold two years before the apex of the
    worlds greatest bubble– great move there einstein

  • Liar Loan says:
    July 9, 2009 at 1 pm

    “The Fed’s preferred price gauge, which excludes food and energy prices, rose 1.8 percent in May from a year earlier.”
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aXE_NxcOLRXc
    Ouch…

  • rants says:
    July 9, 2009 at 9 pm

    rut roh– china– our biggest creditor– is calling the fed’s hand
    in the ultimate game of liars poker— heads they win- tales we lose

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/31838115

    deflation score card

    1) real estate prices crashing for over two years and counting
    – check

    2) stock market plunges from 14000 to 8100– check

    3) falling WAGES (stagnant at best) AND spiraling unemployment
    numbers– check

    4) oil back below 70- from a 140 high last year– check

    5) rent price reductions and rental wars with “free months”
    incentive signs everywhere– check

    6) grocery store price wars– check

    7) nimrods who bought into the bubble hoping for
    inflation to bale their dumb asses out– double check

    8) HISTORIC levels of federal- state- local and personal DEBT—
    TRIPLE CHECK– see attached debt to gdp graph and note the
    graphs starting point during the great depression which was a
    deflationary crash– quadruple check

    http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/crisis-explained-one-chart-debt-gdp/11570

    9) the fed keeping interest rates at ZERO in a vain attempt
    to stop the deflationary death spiral– triple check

    hey liar- care to respond to each of those FACTS?

    wellllllllllllllllll I’m waiting

  • rants says:
    July 11, 2009 at 1 am

    liar– oh liar

    thats what I thought-

    debate rule number one — never try to debate someone whos smarter than you

  • MIKE-haWK says:
    July 12, 2009 at 7 am

    It is really sad to see these renters having to pay more in property taxes unjustly while property values are dropping in mid -high range.
    Maybe I should have listened to dealholeo and bought?